{"id":927,"date":"2025-01-19T05:50:04","date_gmt":"2025-01-19T05:50:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/veritas-et-caritas.com\/?p=927"},"modified":"2025-04-16T10:23:02","modified_gmt":"2025-04-16T10:23:02","slug":"historia-civilis-is-wrong-about-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/veritas-et-caritas.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/19\/historia-civilis-is-wrong-about-work\/","title":{"rendered":"Historia Civilis is wrong about work"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Historia Civilis is a history Youtuber with over one million subscribers. He not only uses historical sources, but lists in them in the video description, and sometimes cites them in his video. But I was disapponted in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hvk_XylEmLo&amp;t=19s&amp;ab_channel=HistoriaCivilis\" title=\"\">his video<\/a> on the history of work and time management, published on 30 September 2023. <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/XTqX9grxunc\" title=\"This video of mine\">This video of mine<\/a> explains why I think Historica Civilis is wrong about work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Historia Civilis is wrong about work\" width=\"950\" height=\"534\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XTqX9grxunc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Media credit<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/1\/1f\/19th_century_heat_machine_room_with_coal_boiler%2C_Auckland_-_0951.jpg\">https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/1\/1f\/19th_century_heat_machine_room_with_coal_boiler%2C_Auckland_-_0951.jpg<\/a>, \u00a9 Jorge Royan&nbsp;\/&nbsp;http:\/\/www.royan.com.ar<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sources<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Adler, Gillian, and Paul Strohm. <em>Alle Thyng Hath Tyme: Time and Medieval Life<\/em>. Medieval Lives. London: Reaktion books, 2023.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Baiman, Rhon. \u201cBook Review: The Overworked American: The Unexpected Decline of Leisure.\u201d <em>Review of Radical Political Economics<\/em> 25.3 (1993): 129\u201332. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1177\/048661349302500316\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1177\/048661349302500316<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Barker, Graeme. \u201cStone Age Economics: A New Audit.\u201d Pages 30\u201343 in <em>Encounters, Excavations and Argosies: Essays for Richard Hodges<\/em>. Edited by John Mitchell, John Moreland, and Bea Leal. Archaeopress Archaeology. Oxford: Archaeopress Publishing, 2017.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Basso, Pietro. <em>Modern Times, Ancient Hours<\/em>. Translated by Donis Giacomo. Revised&amp;Expanded ed. 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United Kingdom: Princeton University Press, 2007.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dunlop, Olive Jocelyn, and Richard Douglas Denman. <em>English Apprenticeship &amp; Child Labour: A History, by O. Jocelyn Dunlop, with a Supplementary Section on the Modern Problem of Juvenile Labour, by O. Jocelyn Dunlop and Richard D. Denman<\/em>. T.F. Unwin, 1912.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dyer, Christopher. \u201cEveryday Life in Medieval England: The Case of Harvest Workers.\u201d <em>The Agricultural History Review<\/em> 36.1 (2000): 21\u201337. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5040\/9781472599407\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5040\/9781472599407<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Garver, Valerie L. <em>A Cultural History of Work in the Medieval Age<\/em>. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2020.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hailwood, Mark. \u201cTime and Work in Rural England, 1500\u20131700.\u201d <em>Past &amp; Present<\/em> 248.1 (2020): 87\u2013121. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1093\/pastj\/gtz065\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1093\/pastj\/gtz065<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Historia Civilis. \u201cWork.\u201d <em>YouTube<\/em>, 30 September 2023. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hvk_XylEmLo\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hvk_XylEmLo<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kaplan, David. \u201cThe Darker Side of the \u2018Original Affluent Society.\u2019\u201d <em>Journal of Anthropological Research<\/em> 56.3 (2000): 301\u201324. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1086\/jar.56.3.3631086\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1086\/jar.56.3.3631086<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kniesner, Thomas J. \u201cReview Essay: The Overworked American?\u201d <em>The Journal of Human Resources<\/em> 28.3 (1993): 681. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.2307\/146166\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.2307\/146166<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lewis, Mary. \u201cWork and the Adolescent in Medieval England Ad 900\u20131550: The Osteological Evidence.\u201d <em>Medieval Archaeology<\/em> 60.1 (2016): 138\u201371. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/00766097.2016.1147787\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/00766097.2016.1147787<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lindstr\u00f6m, Jonas, Rosemarie Fiebranz, and G\u00f6ran Ryd\u00e9n. \u201cThe Diversity of Work.\u201d <em>Making a Living, Making a Difference<\/em>. 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Oxford University Press, 2017.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marrsund. \u201cHistoria Civilis\u2019s \u2018Work\u2019 Gets Almost Everything Wrong.\u201d Reddit Post. <em>R\/Badhistory<\/em>, 2 October 2023. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/www.reddit.com\/r\/badhistory\/comments\/16y233q\/historia_civiliss_work_gets_almost_everything\/\">www.reddit.com\/r\/badhistory\/comments\/16y233q\/historia_civiliss_work_gets_almost_everything\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mull, Amanda. \u201cWhat Did Medieval Peasants Know?\u201d <em>The Atlantic<\/em>, 6 May 2022. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/health\/archive\/2022\/05\/medieval-history-peasant-life-work\/629783\/\">https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/health\/archive\/2022\/05\/medieval-history-peasant-life-work\/629783\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Murphy, Anne L. \u201cClock-Watching: Work and Working Time at the Late Eighteenth-Century Bank of England*.\u201d <em>Past &amp; Present<\/em> 236.1 (2017): 99\u2013132. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1093\/pastj\/gtx015\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1093\/pastj\/gtx015<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Myles, James. <em>Chapters in the Life of a Dundee Factory Boy, an Autobiography [by J. 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Norton &amp; Company, 2021. <a href=\"http:\/\/link.overdrive.com\/?websiteID=243&amp;titleID=6594621\">http:\/\/link.overdrive.com\/?websiteID=243&amp;titleID=6594621<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sahlins, Marshall. <em>Stone Age Economics<\/em>. 9. [pr.]. Hawthorne, NY: Aldine de Gruyter, 1995.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sahlins, Marshall David. <em>Stone Age Economics<\/em>. Chicago: Aldine-Atherton, 1972.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Schor, Juliet. <em>The Overworked American: The Unexpected Decline of Leisure<\/em>. New York, N.Y.: BasicBooks, 1993.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Shannon, James B. \u201cThe Medieval Concept of Time.\u201d <em>James B. Shannon<\/em>, 25 June 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/jamesbshannon.com\/2015\/06\/24\/the-medieval-concept-of-time\/\">https:\/\/jamesbshannon.com\/2015\/06\/24\/the-medieval-concept-of-time\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Solway, Jacqueline. \u201c\u2018The Original Affluent Society\u2019: Four Decades On.\u201d <em>The Politics of Egalitarianism: Theory and Practice<\/em>. Edited by Jacqueline Solway. Berghahn Books, 2006.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stabel, Peter. \u201cLabour Time, Guild Time? Working Hours in the Cloth Industry of Medieval Flanders and Artois (Thirteenth-Fourteenth Centuries).\u201d <em>Tijdschrift Voor Sociale En Economische Geschiedenis\/ The Low Countries Journal of Social and Economic History<\/em> 11.4 (2014): 27. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.18352\/tseg.167\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.18352\/tseg.167<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thompson, Derek. \u201cA Brief Economic History of Time.\u201d <em>The Atlantic<\/em>, 21 December 2016. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/business\/archive\/2016\/12\/a-brief-economic-history-of-time\/510566\/\">https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/business\/archive\/2016\/12\/a-brief-economic-history-of-time\/510566\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thompson, E. P. \u201cTime, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism.\u201d <em>Past &amp; Present<\/em> 38 (1967): 56\u201397.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>UK Parliament House of Commons. \u201cAlarm Clocks.\u201d <em>Hansard<\/em> 433 (1947). <a href=\"https:\/\/hansard.parliament.uk\/commons\/1947-02-25\/debates\/7982390e-2f46-4ba3-9a91-2847c775c38d\/AlarmClocks\">https:\/\/hansard.parliament.uk\/commons\/1947-02-25\/debates\/7982390e-2f46-4ba3-9a91-2847c775c38d\/AlarmClocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014. \u201cFactories.\u201d <em>Hansard<\/em> 128 (1853). <a href=\"https:\/\/hansard.parliament.uk\/Commons\/1853-07-05\/debates\/158dc343-1528-4c4a-ac7c-8335704d6f24\/Factorieshighlight=factory+clocks\">https:\/\/hansard.parliament.uk\/Commons\/1853-07-05\/debates\/158dc343-1528-4c4a-ac7c-8335704d6f24\/Factorieshighlight=factory+clocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014. \u201cFactories\u2019 Regulation Bill.\u201d <em>Hansard<\/em> 11 (1832). <a href=\"https:\/\/hansard.parliament.uk\/Commons\/1832-03-16\/debates\/b152502d-0108-4936-ad1c-c9fbc423347d\/FactoriesRegulationBillhighlight=clocks\">https:\/\/hansard.parliament.uk\/Commons\/1832-03-16\/debates\/b152502d-0108-4936-ad1c-c9fbc423347d\/FactoriesRegulationBillhighlight=clocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014. \u201cHours of Labor in Factories -Adjourned Debate.\u201d <em>Hansard<\/em> 73 (1844): 1220.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Verhoeven, Gerrit. \u201cFashionably Late? Time, Work and the Industrious Revolution in Early Modern Antwerp (1585\u20131795).\u201d <em>Cont. Change<\/em> 35.3 (2020): 255\u201379. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1017\/S0268416020000260\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1017\/S0268416020000260<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voth, Hans-Joachim. \u201cTime and Work in Eighteenth-Century London.\u201d <em>The Journal of Economic History<\/em> 58.1 (1998): 29\u201358.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Woodock, George. \u201cThe Tyranny of the Clock.\u201d <em>War Commentary<\/em> (1944).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Xenos, Nicholas. \u201cThe Original Affluent Society and the Culture of Scarcity.\u201d <em>Annals of the Fondazione Luigi Einaudi: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Economics, History and Political Science: LV, 1, 2021<\/em> 1 (2021). <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.26331\/1133\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.26331\/1133<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.26331\/1133\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.26331\/1133<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Historia Civilis is a history Youtuber with over one million subscribers. 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